Is it really? Well lets analyse this, would you eat your wife, husband, son, daughter? Why not, you can still love them and eat them, right? Animals and people both feel pain. The only reason you eat meet is for pleasure (there are other options.) So no, you can never truly 'love' animals, I am not saying you hate them, but heck, you sure don't love them. It is just exploiting and killing something you clam to 'love' for your own pleasure. Love is far too stronger word.
Yes, but my point was not if they can 'hang around happily' and such. It was could you really 'love' something that you are happy to kill and eat, for pleasure. Also, many animals bodies could not very well live without meat, they know no better, we on the other hand, do.
It's false that we are strickly vegetarian. We need the fats to keep us warm. Without meat we would of died out during the ice age. I really enjoy horses but in a desperate situation I would eat the horse. We ARE predators like big cats, wolves, and etc.. We are also fair game to animals. But I show strong connections to dogs and could never eat a dog!
I didn't mean that humans are 'naturally' vegetarian. I just meant that currently there is no need to eat meat (thankfully the ice age isn't here... ) And I still feel 'love' was not the right word for this stamp.
It is interesting how you could never eat a dog, but you could eat, say a cow? May I ask what difference you see between them? I mean, they all feel pain and suffering, so why (if unnecessary) eat them. I'm not trying to argue the situation of starvation, as it is not relevant to the moment and is a whole new concept.
But I still feel, you cannot truly love an animal and eat it. For example, if you had a pet dog who you really cared for, loved and had a connection with, you probably couldn't eat him/her, why? You can still eat an animal and love them....according to this stamp anyway.... I am sorry if I sound sarcastic, but just showing my point.
I feel like some animals show high intelligence and can be loyal hunting companions. We do many things with dogs including hunt and why should we kill an animal that can help catch food and remain very loyal. I see dogs as mute humans basically. I know animals feel pain that's why one should be thankful and respectful after hunting an animal maybe At least thank them for their sacrifice and end their life fast without slow suffering. I believe in humain euthanisation.
I feel like if we value killing something due to intelligence, then who's to say a person with learning disability's shouldn't be killed over an 'intelligent' person. I of course do not mean any offence to any person with such a disability, but I feel that is the roots of this discussion, intelligence cannot be valued too highly. Besides, pigs are an extremely intelligent creatures and yet we kill them. In some country's, dogs are eaten and they view it no differently to us eating pigs. So pain and suffering should come before anything. I am glad to see you feel an animal, if killed should be killed quickly and such, it seems many meat industry's are so about money the animals suffer far greater than just hunting and killing them swiftly. I'm glad that you show respect, I do certainly think that is good of you!
And returning the stamp, do you agree that you can't kill something you 'love'? Such as the example of you having a dear pet dog.
You have a point there. I am all about using only what is needed, i hate the meat industries I saw a video of them tossing baby chicks onto a covator belt like they were just products instead of living things and skining cows alive. I mean how can you just sit there and think it's normal to strip flesh off a living cow, I want to know that the meat I'm buying is from a cow that lived a healthy life in the feilds. I like some meats but it's impossible to know if the meat I'm eating died humainly. I still have respect and well being for the lower thinking animals but know they have their part on the food chain, I mean heck we are food! Maggots love having feast on decaying human and some tribes used to perform cannibalism but is considered taboo now. But it wouldn't be such a bad idea to turn psychopath killers into meat for carnivores at the zoo.. I know I'm dark..
No need to be so abrupt, I was simply giving an opinion, in which love does not typically involve killing the loved thing for pleasure, be it a animal or human. Love is far more powerful, you can like some animals and still eat them, yes, but you can never love them.
No, I just don't think you can 'love' them, you can like and care about them. For example some people genuinely want to cause the animal pain and have no care about it. Other do not mind killing and eating it, but wish to do so as humanly as possible. I just mean you cannot really 'love' something and kill it for pleasure. If you have a pet dog, you may like that dog maybe even love that dog, but not love 'animals' then eat them. I mean you cannot love a cow, then go kill and eat this cow, purely for pleasure. It comes down to how you define love I suppose. But we often say we love our, parents/children/wife/husband/partner we would not eat these people even if they tasted good. I know it is an extreme example, but it is still a point. I am not judging somebody because they choose to eat meet, but I do not believe you can love a animal and eat it for pleasure. I suppose; why do we eat meet, when there are alternatives? I'm guessing for pleasure, then it is a selfish act of killing an innocent being for pleasure, now if you are okay with that, then that is entirely up to you, but you cannot love the animal. That was my point.
I hope I didn't cause offence, just giving my opinion.
It is possible to quickly kill a chicken without it suffering and then eat it rather than making it live an unhealthy and miserable life in a cage , not seeing the day of light and then killing it the cheapest way not caring about how it hurts to the chicken . Most people rant about hunting (and I mean hunting for actual food , sport hunting and/or fur hunting are despicable ) but then eat a steak ignoring how the cow was treated , and sadly in most of the farms they are beaten , killed with painful methods , mutilated and also not having their diseases treated as long as they don't affect the meat . Meanwhile a wild dear had a full life and in most of the cases dies quickly . I know that some species are hunted constantly and they are endangered (and we should protect ) but they at least had a life which some cows could have if they lived in a good farm and were treated properly .
Thank you for this! I have always been an animal lover, which is why I went into Biology. But as a scientist, I also know objective facts about the Natural world and its processes. Eating other animals is part of the food-chain, and without meat human beings would not have developed their considerable brains (which can be seen as a good or bad thing, that's another debate). In fact, the brainiest animals are often omnivores, just like us. You can eat meat and treat the animal it came from with respect and humanity. I am against over-farming and its very negative environmental impacts, I am against battery-farming, and cruel treatment of livestock. Nothing justifies it. On the contrary, we should be grateful to the beings who will feed us, and give us leather, cloth, and other products. But I am not against eating meat as such. One could argue that with vegetable proteins, we could possibly do away with meat altogether. Maybe that's true. But eating meat is not inherently evil: mistreating the animals we rear for meat is.
I have three dogs that I love dearly and take care of every day, and I love animals and entirely support animal welfare. I eat meat (and love it), have a fox tail, a mink tail, and a turtle shell (I can assure you it was all humanely hunted), and I'm planning on getting my hunting permit. If doing these things make me an "EVIL HOOMAN!11!!" than I'd rather be an ANIMWOO ABOOSER!!111!! than a psychotic animal fucker. I really do love animals, and I'm sure there are people who practice the things I do that love animals with all their hearts.
But the animal rights nutjobs think otherwise....because they're nuts.... XD